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#51: Apr 18th 2024 at 9:17:33 PM

[up] If we go with Horrible Judge Of Danger, I would want to put something in the description that says "Not to be confused with Hanging Judge."

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#52: Apr 18th 2024 at 9:57:30 PM

So, what now, a crowner?

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#53: Apr 19th 2024 at 3:30:05 PM

My problem with Horrible Judge Of Danger is it goes in both directions. It would also apply to a complete coward who is always imagining danger when there is none.

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#54: Apr 19th 2024 at 7:58:01 PM

Other names have been suggested, like Stupidity Impulse Bait and Dumb Choice Bait. What I want confirmation of right now is whether the concepts I suggested are fine or need redefining.

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#55: Apr 20th 2024 at 6:26:14 AM

[up] is the second concept video game specific? because that seems pretty close to Press X to Die, and i think we have non video game examples

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#56: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:15:25 AM

You seem to be right. We ought to move them (if there's any in the Schmuck Bait page) to Press X to Die.

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#57: May 15th 2024 at 11:12:53 PM

Clocking due to inactivity.

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#58: May 16th 2024 at 6:13:59 AM

Crowner ideas (some rewording may be needed, and it may be a 2-step process):

  • Rename
  • Retool to explicitly include non-traps (a mechanism intended to cause harm) to allow other examples that are "obviously dangerous".
  • Retool from focusing on trap by themselves, to focus on characters who foolishly decides to interact with something that has stereotypical elements of a trap.
  • Split off non-physical traps and baiting provocations

Edited by Amonimus on May 16th 2024 at 4:14:06 PM

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#59: May 17th 2024 at 6:13:39 AM

Shut off the clock, and hooked the above crowner with some wording adjustments, along with having renaming be conditional on retooling and the option for splitting off a new trope omitted (since that's a job for TLP or the Salvage Yard).

Edit: Neglected to mention that renaming was made conditional on retooling because the discussion regarding the current definition on the first two pages of the thread seems to indicate that there's some uncertainty regarding what the current definition is, meaning renaming without retooling might leave wick cleaners unsure of what to do with examples.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 17th 2024 at 8:20:09 AM

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Trope Repair Shop: Schmuck Bait
17th May '24 6:05:42 AM

Crown Description:

Schmuck Bait is frequently misused. What should be done with it? Options are not mutually exclusive.

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